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12.05.06 at 14:56:01
 
Kiss I've used AVG for a long time - but have now started to use other utilities like adaware and spybot - but I'm just not sure how good these are as every time I run them they both come up with something different! Does anyone know a really good way to get rid of adware etc.? Huh
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Reply #1 - 12.05.06 at 15:39:34
 
AVG is absolute rubbish, most people think it works well as they say "it never finds anything, so must be working" nothing is so far from the truth, it doesnt find anything as it doesnt know about half the rubbish out there.

If you are using the freebie antispyware stuff then you need to run about three of them to really come close to pick up half the spyware out there.  The best i have come across is Webroots Spysweeper and you can download a free 15 day trial just to see what else it will pick up..  the likes of SPybot are free but only find around 40000 items where are spysweeper is capable of finding around 137,000 so quiet a difference although some are classified as false positives......

Microsoft have rebranded their antispyware beta version as Windows Defender so maybe do a search of google and download their free version of that too if your not running a paid for service.....

As tescos say " every little helps"   Grin

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Reply #2 - 12.05.06 at 19:39:55
 
To say that 'AVG is rubbish' is a little over the top, but the FREE version does NOT tackle SPYWARE at all, and as such is of limited value.  Spyware is now probably causing more problems than Viruses, so a continuously running antispyware is necessary.

All of the big virus companies have added anti-spyware to their antivirus engines this autumn, and with the firewall software this causes machines with less than 512Mb RAM to become very slow.  I have used F-Secure for nearly 10 years now, and continue to be reasonably well protected.

NO anti-malware software is perfect, and all suffer from the time delay between the occurrence of a malware 'in the wild' and the update issue to kill it.
Just a note on Microsoft - unless you accept the latest bit of spyware from microsoft, you cannot download their spyware killer - does that make them any better than spyaxe ?

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Reply #3 - 12.05.06 at 19:47:04
 
I've been using a combination of MS Defender and a copy of Acronis Spyware Shield which I got off a computer magazine.  This seems to work.  If you're prepared to pay then 'Ewido' is one of the best.  You can try it for 14 days to see if you like it.  The latest bit of spyware from MS that Taz refers to is just to check that your copy of Windows is genuine.  Once it has done this then it is removed.
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Reply #4 - 12.05.06 at 20:51:49
 
In my opinion, which we all know what opinions are worth, is that you should not be relying on an anti-virus program to protect you from adware and spyware anyhow. AVG I have found to be excellent at what it was originally designed to do which is to protect from viruses. I have had it find problems that Norton and Trend Micro did not.
For adware and spyware protection use the appropriate programs that deal with those issues such as Ad-Aware and Spybot just for an example
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Reply #5 - 12.05.06 at 21:01:30
 
Hi

Maybe you have all missed this from Micro2000
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http://www.micro2000.co.uk/products/security/M2KManagedSecurityNews.htm

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Reply #6 - 15.05.06 at 13:40:57
 
AVG has recently teamed up with Ewido (http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1); anti-virus firms have been criticised for not being more pro-active in terms of tackling spyware but I'd rather they stuck to their brief and let users tackle that with software designed for the task.
Always have Spywareblaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html) installed and updated, and Spybot + immunisation even if you don't scan with it very often, and a trial of Ewido if you get anything really problematic, or one of the others mentioned before. After that it's HijackThis and expert help at a malware forum.
I liked MS Antispyware before they updated it to Defender; less intuitive interface, more problematic to use and update, even if it does find more spyware (or so they say).
Using the above keeps most of the junk at bay, tho I'm not saying it's the answer for everyone or there aren't more effective solutions. I just like free stuff Smiley
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Reply #7 - 15.05.06 at 23:20:17
 
Hey Guys, THANKS for all the advice - I'll check these out!  Smiley

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Reply #9 - 26.10.07 at 23:22:38
 
More sensible and informed responses - this is getting to be a really good forum !!!  Smiley

Yes - you need a suite of defences nowadays - AV alone is not sufficient unless you want to be laced up so tight in that corset that you simply can't breath !  Smiley  I run NOD32 as my first line defence - then that is backed up by Spybot Search & Destroy (free) (which I have used for years happily - BUT ACTIVATE THE BLOOMIN "IMMUNISE" facility and update weekly) and AdAware 2007 (free) (which I have also used for years happily - again, update weekly - though it has no immunise ability in the free version).  I agree about the time lag in malware releases vs definitions updated by the vendors.  I think it is time I added a third dedicated anti-malware as failsafe - so am reading opinions here closely.

Most of all - be sensible and avoid the usual silly lapses of attention - these script kiddies are a pain and organised crime peeps employ talented script writers nowadays !  Angry  Oh and do I trust anti malware offered by Billy Boy Gates and his minions ?  *falls out of his chair laughing*  errrrrr no.

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Reply #10 - 08.02.08 at 08:08:59
 
I use a layered protection (OS is XP Pro SP2) this is on my main Computer "Gamer"

Running
Comodo Firewall v3.0
Avast Anti Virus 4.7
Comodo BOClean 4.25
CounterSpy v2

Static
Spy Bot SD 1.5.1
TrojanHunter 5

Cleaners
Ccleaner v2.04.543
MRU Blaster
ATF Cleaner

This configuration works well for me as there are no conflictions within the software and I'm running clean  Smiley
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Reply #11 - 13.02.08 at 21:59:20
 
Hello,

I have read these posts with interest as the vast number of users that rely on AVG Free is incredible. From my perspective, anyway, You get what you PAY for.

This is the point that i think people are too shy to admit to.

If you want anti-spyware / anti-virus solutions, you need to research them and most essentially PAY for them. You, as the end-user, cannot expect to NOT pay for software and, in turn, expect it to catch "everything".

There are a great many packages available out there that "claim" to protect you, but in fact do quite the opposite.

The reports that most people see in computer magazines and on websites are based on anti-malware companies (for want of a better word) paying "organisations" to perform tests on their software on their behalf.

These tests are, by their very nature, biased - for no reason other than that the testing company was paid to test the product and so "positive" results are favoured.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/ is a website that performs INDEPENDENT tests on a number of antivirus products.

I would suggest checking out this site before making a decision as to what shape/form of anti-malware solution would be best for you.

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Reply #12 - 26.04.09 at 12:28:40
 
Thought I would update this security section with some more info. Especially as most of my time of late has been spent out on the road fighting malware.

These are the tools that I use at the moment pending those malware writers from running background tasks to stop you installing them. If they do then  rename the installer before running the app.

malware scanners:
malwarebytes
superantispyware (has some script tools for those taskmanager switch offs etc)
ccleaner
atf cleaner

Antivirus software: dont use often as time is usually limited when on site but
Avast (when installed will scan system on startup so has a better chance of finding those hidden virus/malware)

Also when the system is so unusable and even in safe mode then I will use UBCD so that you can run superantispyware from CD.  Only helps if its the latest download or the system you are fixing is on a router with internet access so that you can update.
Then if that has helped run malwarebytes after in windows. Both these have quick scans so usually only take about 15 mins to run. I do trust Malwarebytes more to find malware that appears to be buried. However thats down to the virus/malware writers to stop that happening I'm sure it will soon as they get to know what the current tools we use to combat the terror.
Spybot I used to use but have found that of late its Malwarebytes that seems to be a snip better then the others and quick to use.

Oh and if system restore hasn't been switched off try that as well back to a previous date and then run the above apps before thinking about reinstalling windows etc.
If you do find that its best to reinstall the system back to factory default (probabaly because of time restraint) then you'll probably need to do a backup of your/their data.

Micro-Scope DUO will help here with the supplied Puppy Linux, You can repartition the drive and then copy the data over to that partition or copy data over to an external HD or memory stick.

In some cases when using system restore it will not be succesfull, well one trick is to rerun system restore from safe mode.
However in all cases don't forget once you have the system up and running to remove sytem restore points restart and create a new restore point.

You may also find that the Antiviris software that was running on the PC has been damaged or switched of so uninstall and reinstall. It might be best if you get the av suppliers tools to uninstall the AV's rather than relying on the normal uninstaller (which dont clear all the rubbish out).

If the PC has only just been infected then I may do a system restore first and then run the scanners afterwards but thats usually ok if it has only just been infected or has not been used very much since it was first realised that it had been infected.

I will leave these apps on the PC so that a full test can be run by the user and leaving him with the choice of paying the software writers a fee for their full versions - only fair if its helped them to get their PC up and running again. Grin

So how do you go about resolving these issues?
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